>> well, actually a small handful of folks who are really wilderness activists who care deeply about getting people off the land, i think is the best we can tell, want to give up something to create a humanless landscape and it's a little strange because national sea shore was created as a work landscape. the oyster farm is completely surrounded by working ranches and so to remove the oyster farm from the middle of the historic ranching lands is odd. >> gretchen: aren't the oysters part of the landscape? >> well, they have been for a very long time. as a matter of fact, the national academy of sciences says that drake's, where the oysters live, is probably healthier with the oyster farm because of the eco system services. it's the reason that we see oysters being planted in the chesapeake and san francisco bay. >> gretchen: right. >> and now we have an interior department who wants to remove them. >> gretchen: so let me ask you this, the board of supervisors -- let's face it, this is not a conservative part of the country. board of supervisors, senator diane feinstein, democrat, they